Comments on: Dear Oracle, Get a Clue http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/ Marketing at Eclipse Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:47:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Blad http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-20902 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:24:27 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-20902 I’m still Here — Java

]]> By: java programming lesson http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-20523 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:14:44 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-20523 everything about java…

[...]Dear Oracle, Get a Clue « Ian Skerrett[...]…

]]> By: PAAS & de toekomst van programmeren (1) « JANWIERSMA.COM http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-20063 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:25:59 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-20063 [...] mannen van Eclipse (Ian Skerrett & Mike Milinkovich ) geven aan in hun blogs dat Oracle vooral moet leren hoe om te gaan met een [...]

]]> By: Apache Software Foundation renuncia a JCP « Java Revolution http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-20046 Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:17:13 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-20046 [...] Oracle parece não ter nenhuma idéia ainda de como lidar com isso, e os recente processo envolvendo o Google parece que trará isso a tona [...]

]]> By: venkat http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-20043 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:37:34 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-20043 It seems that Oracle is helping Microsoft inturn, by making java community/developers/customers to think about further projects/products they are forcing to look out for other options, which in other ways would also restrain these people from using Oracle DB…, I have seen such a thing happening at my work..
GOD save Oracle.

]]> By: A Oracle pode salvar o Java? « Vida de Programador http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-19929 Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:06:41 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-19929 [...] escolher esperar para responder publicamente. Mas  Ian Skettett, da fundação Eclipse, acha que a Oracle precisa achar um jeito de como lidar com a comunidade ao invés de tratá-la como clientes. Eu odeio contar, mas [...]

]]> By: Alex M http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-19843 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:49:44 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-19843 Here an example of a great Java power App. A professional 3D content tool called Strata Live 3D

http://www.strata.com/products/strata_3d_cx_suite/strata_live_3d_cx/
google Java Strata 3D

]]> By: Infernoz http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-19842 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:37:47 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-19842 Idiot, Java is vibrantly alive, so much so, I don’t have enough time to look at all the active OSS Java projects for it, let alone all the many active enterprise projects, because I am kept busy developing for several international businesses, and see no letup in demand!

]]> By: Infernoz http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-19840 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:26:54 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-19840 @kevin
You appear to be either ignorant or a troll; you do realise that .net and C# extensively plagiarised the Java class libraries, so you are talking BS about the Java language and class library design!

LINQ maybe nice, however Java OSS provides extendible libraries providing equivalent or better functionality e.g. XOM for XML/XPath, numerous database APIS, Object SQL-like APIs etc.

It is not unusual to see Java OSS libraries ported to .Net, because they are better than existing .Net functionality or libraries; I have not seen any ports in the opposite direction, I think this is telling!

I do not regard shared language features as relevant, because all the language features in Java and C# come from older languages.

I’ve used .net and found out the hard way that corrupted installation can be a mega bitch to uninstall/repair or install, especially supplied with Windows, because of the insanely deep integration with the OS and the ridiculously huge numbers of files and registry entries it uses. Visual Studio .net suffers similar issues (from bitter experience), unlike Java IDEs.

Because of the above .Net mess, it is vastly easier to install/uninstall Java and explicitly use isolated and different version of the JVM/JDK than any .net installation, software deployment is also far easier e.g. just copy a .jar, .war, or .jnlp file!

Just to rub it in, Android uses a Java-like language and class libraries, so can be developed for via a NetBeans plugin :)

]]> By: Infernoz http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/dear-oracle-get-a-clue/#comment-19838 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:23:19 +0000 http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/?p=1720#comment-19838 @kevin
You appear to be either ignorant or a troll; you do realise that .net and C# extensively plagiarised the Java class libraries, so you are talking BS about the Java language and class library design!

LINQ maybe nice, however Java OSS provides extendible libraries providing equivalent or better functionality e.g. XOM for XML/XPath, numerous database APIS, Object SQL-like APIs etc.

It is not unusual to see Java OSS libraries ported to .Net, because they are better than existing .Net functionality or libraries; I have not seen any ports in the opposite direction, I think this is telling!

I do not regard shared language features as relevant, because all the language features in Java and C# come from older languages.

I’ve used .net and found out the hard way that corrupted installation can be a mega bitch to uninstall/repair or install, especially supplied with Windows, because of the insanely deep integration with the OS and the ridiculously huge numbers of files and registry entries it uses. Visual Studio .net suffers similar issues (from bitter experience), unlike Java IDEs.

Because of the above .Net mess, it is vastly easier to install/uninstall Java and explicitly use isolated and different version of the JVM/JDK than any .net installation, software deployment is also far easier e.g. just copy a .jar, .war, or .jnlp file!

Just to rub it in, Android also uses a fork of Java which can be developed for using NetBeans :)

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